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I had mentioned in my earlier post wonderment about how to apply the 1-year subscription to an existing Starter Plan. I received back a reply yesterday from Matterport that the engineers worked out the way that an existing email address connected with an account could have the subscription code applied. Problem solved!
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@Dataventurer Matterport seems to put an ad in your model offering to me as a viewer to download their app and do a tour. I closed it and I did not see it popping up again. I am wondering if it is their plan to do for all 3D tours?

I saw a topic about it on WGAN but it did not happen to me on any of my 3D tours. I am wondering if they do it on free subscription accounts only.
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@Wingman this is an awesome marketing idea, we applaud Matterport for this well done. You can see the stitching lines on the tours also that was taken with Axis


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Takes you to this page? Looks like all the Axis models will have this or "free plans" , its one way they will get to scan 500 million spaces, get your clients to scan it for you and forget about the MSP's
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@Wingman this is an awesome marketing idea, we applaud Matterport for this well done. You can see the stitching lines on the tours also that was taken with Axis




If they are doing it on free accounts only I am kind of understanding it. Pretty much anyone who lets do something for free will advertise their own service or 3rd party one in some way.
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I just completed a test scan using Axis and obviously I'm missing something. I'm using an iPhone 12 Pro (without case) with the ruler setting at 2.5 centered in the rotator. For the on-screen circles to align I have to adjust to -15° instead of 15° Amir speaks of in the Matterport Axis vids. Advice or suggestions?

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What happens if you move 4 feet away from the wall and then hit Start Scan?

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What happens if you move 4 feet away from the wall and then hit Start Scan?

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I shot these pics when I got home just to show. I experienced the same on site though. Had to have the adjustment at -15° for the circles to align.
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I am confused.

Can you tell me the problem a different way?

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For the on-screen circles to align I have to adjust to -15° instead of 15° Amir speaks of in the Matterport Axis vids. Advice or suggestions?


If you move the phone up or down on the Matterport Axis, it will affect what the percentage will be. As long as your 360s look okay, you are fine.

If there still is a problem, can you say it a different way?

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@tmroberts The -15 degree setting is the one to use for a Simple Scan. For the Complete scan, you start with the -15 and then switch to +15 for the second rotation.
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For the on-screen circles to align I have to adjust to -15° instead of 15° Amir speaks of in the Matterport Axis vids. Advice or suggestions?


If you move the phone up or down on the Matterport Axis, it will affect what the percentage will be. As long as your 360s look okay, you are fine.

If there still is a problem, can you say it a different way?

Dan
I will say on rarely use Matterport but thought i'd try the Axis on a vacant house. I did both the Axis using the simple scan then rescanned using the Z1 for comparison. As pathetic as they both are I will post
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@tmroberts The -15 degree setting is the one to use for a Simple Scan. For the Complete scan, you start with the -15 and then switch to +15 for the second rotation.
aaahhhhh...thanks for the tip - I didn't see anything about that in the Matterport training vids.
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Digital Camera World (Jamie Carter) (27 April 2022) Matterport Axis review | The Matterport Axis is an all in one smartphone rig that makes hands-free scanning and 3D walk-through tours easy

"So the rather basic tripod on offer here is the least impressive part of the package simply because it's rather flimsy. Although it’s perfectly usable 95% of the time we found that the tripod wobbled a bit in a windy garden despite using it as low as possible; it might be wise to use a sturdier tripod outside."

Battery life is reasonable; we got half-way through the battery during our test during which we mapped the ground floor of a property that included five rooms and a garden. SO it might be wise to pack a portable battery to recharge it if you have a big project.

Source: Digital Camera World
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WGAN-TV: Matterport Axis Motorized Mount Smartphone Rotator: 1st Impressions | Guests: Gilroy, California-based Dave Avilla, Real Estate Photography and Coldwell Banker Realty Agent | www.CBnorCAL.com | CalDRE # 01075392 and Jeff Nitschke, Owner, CaptureNW covering North Idaho and Eastern Washington State | www.CAPTUREnw.com | Episode #141 | Thursday, 14 April 2022

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Video: Matterport Axis: Everything you need to know (Updated 28 April 2022) | Video courtesy of Matterport YouTube Channel | 28 Aril 2022

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Amir Frank: Welcome Matterporters. This video is all about Matterport Axis. What we're going to be talking about today is this guy right here. Let's go ahead and unbox it.

This is what you're going to get. When you open it up, you're going to have a few things inside. You've got the motor mount, the arm clamp, a remote control a 3/8-1/4 inch tripod adapter, and a USB charging cable as well as the quick start guide. Here is your motor mount.

In my case my thread adapter is right here in the bottom, let me take this out. There it is. This is what the 3/8-1/4 inch thread adapter looks like and if it's not in the bottom of your motor mount it's going to be in a little ziplock bag, right in your case.

Because I'm using the bundled tripod, I actually don't need this thread adapter, however if you are using a different tripod with a 1/4 inch 20 thread, this adapter is going to come in very handy. Now before I go ahead and set this up, let's check out the tripod.

This is the tripod bundled with your Matterport Axis if you did go ahead and choose the bundled package with a tripod. Again, you can definitely use your own tripod if you want, but this is the one that is currently bundled with Matterport Axis.

No different than most tripods out there, the legs just expand out like this and you have three quick release clamps that allow you to extend the legs. I'll go ahead and unclamp all of those, extend the legs all the way and clamp them shut, I'll do that to all three legs.

Right now the three legs are fully extended, but the center post is not extended all the way, which we definitely want to do that.

At this height, the tripod is about 37 inches and that is well below what we recommend. I'll go ahead and loosen the center post just by twisting this center posts right here and also this knob it needs to be loose, so It's two things, this knob as well as the center post need to be loosened up, the center post comes up, we can re-tighten it with this knob right here, as well as securing it in place with this center post right there. Right now my tripod space is at about 45 inches which is great.

With the motor mount I'm going to go ahead and thread this on right now. I find that it's a lot easier to thread the motor mount on before attaching the clamp and camera. Now, we'll go ahead and take my clamp out. Before attaching this to the motor mount,

I'm going to go ahead and attach my phone to the clamp. My phone is an iPhone 12 Pro Max with a case on it. It is pretty wide. I need to go a little bit more. Before I go ahead and clamp this shut on my phone, tightening it into place, I want to make sure that my lens is properly aligned with the center of this horizontal pivot point.

If you don't know which lens on your camera is the ultra-wide angle lens or if you don't have an ultra-wide angle lens, it's just a normal lens that's going to be used by capture. But if you do have an ultra-wide angle lens, that's the lens that capture is going to be used.

Again, if you're not sure which one of your lenses is the ultra-wide angle lens you can go ahead, turn on capture, start a scan so that you can see what's going on through the lens and just use your finger to cover each one of the lens until you find the one that's covered up.

Pro tip, go ahead and clean the lens with a lens cloth after you've done that. In my case, the ultra-wide angle lens is this one right here.

I just need to make sure that this lens and the center of this pivot point are aligned. I just need to eyeball it. It doesn't have to be perfect, but as close as possible is definitely recommended.

Now I've got the lens aligned with the horizontal pivot point and I can go ahead and place the clamp into this unit here. You'll notice that there is a white arrow on the top of the motor mount and a ruler on the base of your clamp. Depending on your phone and whether you're using a case or not, that will determine what ruler marking is going to line up with the arrow.

In order to find out, I'm looking to align the ultra-wide angle lens with the center of the motor mount. On this side, I have a dark gray arrow here, I also have this knob right there, and then basically you're going to try and eyeball just to see that they are pretty close.

Right there it looks pretty good. For anybody who wants to get this extremely precise, I do have some tips on how to do that, and I'll get to that at the very end of the video.

Now with the phone connected to the arm clamp that is connected to the motor mount that is connected to my tripod, I've got my lens height at 54.5 inches, which is just short of the recommended 55 inches. That is perfectly fine no one will ever notice that half inch difference.

This little compact tripod really does do a great job at setting your camera lens at an appropriate height for capturing your digital twin for many different use cases. Now I have properly aligned the ultra-wide angle lens with the horizontal and vertical Axis and I can go ahead and turn it on.

Right here in the front are four little LED lights that give me a rough estimate of what the battery level is for Matterport Axis.

Now it is simply a matter of turning on my phone and accessing Matterport capture. Press the plus sign down here in the bottom to create a new model. My phone automatically recognized Matterport Axis, so you can see down here in the bottom in the camera button, it says iPhone Plus access.

In order to use the remote control, it's just a long press on the Capture button in the middle. Hold that down, and after about a second, you'll see the blue light come on.

Now you can see that the camera button, it says iPhone plus Axis plus remote and I know that all the devices are talking to one another.

You can also see in the top-left corner that it says Axis at 86 percent battery and the remote is at 33 percent battery. This remote does use a very simple watch battery, it's easy enough to just take the bottom right off and access the battery that way. Now I'm basically ready to scan, that's all there is to it. I'll go ahead and press the "Remote" button and initially it'll say, "Get Started", it's just the first time that I'm using this with this model.

I'll just hit, "Get Started". Now because I don't have this tilted down just a little bit as I should, it's giving me this warning at the bottom and all that means is I need to loosen up this pivot point that we talked about before, move this down about 15 degrees. As long as this white dot is pretty much in the middle of that circle, it doesn't have to be perfectly centered, you can go ahead and scan. Press the "Remote" button a second time to begin scanning.

As you can see, setting up your iPhone with Matterport Axis is very simple and it's really no different with your Android device.

As long as you connect Matterport Axis through the capture app on your Android device, you won't be required to enter a password. However, some Android devices, if you don't do that, if you connect through the Bluetooth settings in your Android device, you will be required to insert a password and that is eight zeros. It's just the number zero eight times in a row.

Since you have this remote control, you can definitely go ahead and hide behind the corner when Matterport Axis is rotating or you can go ahead and walk around the screen side of your phone. As with any other capture devices, however, anytime you are capturing whether you're hiding around the corner or walking around the backside of the camera, look out for yourself in reflections.

If you can see the camera, the camera can see you. But basically that's really about it. Scanning with Matterport Axis is really no different than scanning with any other device. Three sixty is of course captures the entire spherical image at once.

This is more like the Matterport Pro 2 in that it does take several images to complete the full 360 degrees sphere. I went ahead and use Matterport Axis to capture this property. Let's go ahead and check out what that looks like.

Amir Frank: You can see in that clip just how easy it is to capture using your smartphone when you are using Matterport Axis. So much more easy and consistent than if you just use your smartphone alone. Let's go ahead and check out that model that I captured.

You can see as I move around, the image quality is really quite good. I don't see nearly as many of the stitching artifacts and that's thanks to the consistency of the rotation that Matterport Axis provides. I can also look back at the doll house and see that this looks like a great dollhouse and really a great model altogether. That's really it, that is Matterport Axis.

You can see how easy it is to set up and align your phone with the device itself, as well as the benefits that using Matterport Axis provides you. For anybody using smartphone capture, this is a great companion device. It truly allows you to scan a lot faster, a lot more precise, and with a lot less fatigued than you would without using it at all.

Not only that, the image quality of your digital twin is going to be really stunning because after all you are using your phone's camera. If you do have any more questions about Matterport Axis checkout our FAQ@support.matterport.com.

If you've stuck with me this far, you are interested in calibrating your phone's lens very precisely with Matterport Axis and this is how I went ahead and did that. Normally your phone is going to be in Matterport Axis like this and what I want to do is flip the phone over, but I don't want to rotate it like this, what I want to do is flip it so that the screen is like that. Now what I can actually go ahead and do is open up the camera app. This is the idea.

I'm using the wide-angle lens, because that is the lens that's going to be used when I'm in capture. If you don't have a wide-angle lens, that's fine just use the regular lens because you don't have wide-angle lens, that's the lens is going to be used.

I want to take a picture of this. I'll go ahead and snap a shot right there, go ahead and take this now into something like Photoshop. I've got my image open in Photoshop and very simply, I'm going to go into the rulers here and grab a guide and it's just going to snap right into the center of that and I can see that perfectly centered with this lens is going to be whatever this marking is below the two.

I know that this is exactly where I need to align it, which is great, I can take my phone out now.

Very easily, line this up right there and just tighten it down. There you go. I really hope that will help you sleep better at night.
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This is exactly what I expected it to be. Clunky, frustrating and a complete waste of everyone's time.

Matterport is the strangest company. The original cameras and software were outstanding. The last 3-4 years, wall to wall stupid.
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More alignment errors on the full scan



May i know how come the base of the tripod can be seen in some scan points?
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I don’t have an Axis but am I right in saying that scanning with an Axis without the LIDAR option is faster than with the LIDAR option?
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On the full scan above I had used my manfroto tripod

With or without LiDAR scan time is going to be negligible. With a pro version of an iPhone that has LiDAR you’ll have a wide angle lens and I’d recommend the single pass
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On the full scan above I had used my manfroto tripod

With or without LiDAR scan time is going to be negligible. With a pro version of an iPhone that has LiDAR you’ll have a wide angle lens and I’d recommend the single pass


Oh, cuz without the Axis each white circle takes only about one second to complete on my ios device when scanning without Lidar, so I guess when connected to an Axis it takes just as long (as the LIDAR option) to complete each white circle, or is it the Axis would wait for a few seconds before turning 60 degrees to the next circle? (I'm using ultra wide angle lens)
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@Dataventurer if you use Axis with your android phone, will the axis only start rotating when the first circle and dot are aligned? If so, will the axis continue to rotate without the next dot and circle being aligned? I want to use the motorized mount for another purpose hence the questions
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Also, am I right in saying that the axis would pause for about 4s to allow each shot in a rotation to be taken? I think 4s is about the same duration for an iOS lidar scan to take a shot in a 6 shot rotation.
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@Dataventurer if you use Axis with your android phone, will the axis only start rotating when the first circle and dot are aligned? If so, will the axis continue to rotate without the next dot and circle being aligned? I want to use the motorized mount for another purpose hence the questions


Would anyone be able to advise on my question? Thanks a lot in advance.
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Video: Unboxing the Matterport Axis, Motorized Gimbal for Professional 360 Photo Scans plus Foldable Tripod | Video courtesy of ShockBox Media YouTube Channel | 16 June 2022
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@danielslwu I just saw your questions, sorry for the delay in reply.

I don't know that answer to your question about alignment being necessary for operation. My opinion on your other question is that the rotator and the Matterport software are integrated and aren't likely accessible for "other purposes".

Let us know if you figure a work-around!
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Video: Matterport Axis Smartphone Mount: In-Depth Unboxing + First impressions | Video courtesy of HomeTour Media YouTube Channel | 22 June 2022
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