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 WGAN FanClub Member Queensland, Australia |
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| Hi guys, I want to try to promote a Matterport service and my name by doing some 360 degrees tours for tourists and local community. My idea is to go to some parks, tracks, public museums and lockouts and scan them to be published on google maps. Of course nobody is going to pay me for it. I know as a local guide that people can see who has done a tour, photo, review but it seems there is no way for a viewer to contact the photographer who has done it in case they want something similar for their business. So as a photographer you seem to be forced working for nothing in case there is no client who has asked you to do it and pay for it. Is there any way to put your name with contact details on your tour or just a single 360 degree photo so everybody who view it can see who they need to contact if they want something like this? Or as a option, may be I can have a sign with me that can have my contact details to be pictured in my 360 degree or photo so when it is published to google the sign becomes a part of whatever you are photographing. Will Google consider it is dodgy? They may not notice the sign in a few first contributions but I guess it will come to that sooner or later. I have tried to google to find any discussion among google trusted photographers on how to make their contributions to work for them in terms of promoting their names as a pro directly on google maps but I could not find anything. I do not mean doing all these public spaces with my Matterport camera. I will get a good 360 degree camera just for that and I will offer to do it with Matterport one if any business will come to me through these public tours. |
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| Better to ask forgiveness than permission, my friend. Just do it. Good idea. | ||
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| Google has published guidelines for how photos and photosphere need to appear in their platforms. | ||
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WGAN Fan Club Member Queensland, Australia |
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Quote:Originally Posted by TrustedPhotoDC Can you please post a link to it or at least a full name as it is called by Google so I can find it and read it. |
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WGAN Fan Club Member Queensland, Australia |
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Quote:Originally Posted by sounddronetech They so big to the point that they can just ban you from submitting anything to their map and there will be nothing you can do when it happens. I just want to ask first from those who have done a lot of GSV especially for public spaces. There should be some legal way to do it without breaking your connection(business one) to Google maps and their guidelines. |
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WGAN Fan Club Member Queensland, Australia |
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Quote:Originally Posted by TrustedPhotoDC Were you referring to the policy on the link below https://support.google.com/contributionpolicy#topic=7422769 Or there are also some guidelines available from Google? |
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| Hi @Wingman Yes you can use your brand on the nadir of your panoramas. You can use Matterport to publish the panoramas to SV and Panoskin to put the nadir image on your tour. But you must follow some guidelines from Google. For example on what I remember, the size of nadir must be 25% of the entire equiretangular image (or less), you can use your logo, but cannot use phone or e-mail and there is a lot of rules you must follow. Google used to send the guidelines for the old trusted photographers via e-mail, but at the moment you can see them on 2 pages. https://www.google.com/streetview/sales/ https://support.google.com/contributionpolicy/answer/7411351?hl=en&ref_topic=7422769 On the example below you can see a small museum in my city that I has done it. Look at the nadir. https://goo.gl/maps/J5qZCkSg5Z32 But even doing it for free, if you want to follow other Google guidelines, I think you should ask the permission for the administrators of the public space. Regards, Jefferson Takeda |
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WGAN Fan Club Member Queensland, Australia |
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| Thank you Jefferson. It is better than nothing but its allowed position gives very small chance for a viewer to see it. I will have to think about my idea more. Can I ask you, how do you add your logo at nadir position and what camera have you used for your example? Even if I go with my idea ahead I really need a camera with stitching on board. Otherwise after hours of walking and scanning I have to spend even more time to stitch manually. Would it be hard to add a logo at nadir if I get 360 degrees straight from such a camera? Let's say it will be Insta 360 Pro. |
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| You're welcome @Wingman, Yes, the nadir is the only place for you to do it. I already do it for years and you don't believe on how many people look at the nadir. And you must remember that on the left corner up you have your name on the virtual tour also. I use Nikon DSLR and Nikkor fisheye lens to capture to Street View. Still considering a Matterport or GeoCV Kit. The nadir I add on Photoshop, because it's part of my workflow. But in your case, you can use Panoskin to make it easier. Sometimes I do it also. You can use any camera to capture (matterport, DSLR, one click 360ยบ camera, cellphone, etc) and edit the tour on Panoskin.com that has many options to insert the Nadir image on the tour. Even if you publish via Matterport you can download the tour on Panoskin and edit it to insert the Nadir image. Take a look at https://panoskin.com Members of WGAN has the rights to use it. Ask @DanSmigrod about it. Regards, Jefferson Takeda |
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WGAN Fan Club Member Queensland, Australia |
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| Thank you Jefferson, I will check panoskin. And in relation to placing my logo at nadir I have an idea that will eliminate any need to photoshop it. I can just cary a disc with my logo printed on it and I can place under tripod in a specific position where it is going to be captured. I can even try to mount the disc on a tripod directly under a camera so it will always be where it needs to be in order to be captured with any photo. Not sure about focus though as the disc will be much higher than the floor level but if it does not work due to different focus points placing it on the floor should work anyway. |
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| Yes, it's an idea. If you find for Nadir Patch on Google you will find a lot of techniques. I suggested the Panoskin because it's one of the easier ways to doing it on Street View tours with high quality and little work. Much easier than the Photoshop. The technique you pretend to use we call it Nadir Plate. I saw on the internet some professionals doing it also. I remember that a photographer from Jericoacoara, CE, Brazil, has made a couple of years ago a plate for his one click camera. He has made it with a PVC plate and printed his logo on it. I don't have his example any more. But I didn't like the result as a personal opinion, because the quality level that I expect for my jobs. But for him it was Ok because the agility he also wanted on the post production. It's a testing thing. You should test it on your equipment until you get a fine result. Honestly I never tested this technique on my equipment, maybe I can try it sometime. But I think that Panoskin will give you better quality results. Anyway, update this post in the future, if you get some of this jobs done, and the way you choose to have it done. |
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WGAN Fan Club Member Queensland, Australia |
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| Sure I will keep it updated if I go ahead with it. The only problem for it so far is to get approval for my wife as I am going to spend our personal funds on Insta360 Pro and it is not cheap. I actually plan to go to CBD as well at some point and I will be offering to do simple 360 degrees google inside for businesses with Insta360 Pro right on a spot with a small fee but I will be mentioning Matterport service along with it as a much better alternative for more. So may be all my walking will be paid on a spot or it will at least help me to get some business clients for Matterport. I cannot see any other way to sell it in an environment where people do not know much about it or how online marketing can help them to grow. Tried to talk with local business places face to face(I am 10 km from CBD) and even though they all like it and listen about its benefits very little of them understand digital online marketing and so far I am only getting orders for Matterport through friends and relatives. I am thinking of Insta360 Pro because it does stitching on board and allows to submit to google at no extra cost so I can lure customers with lower prices. However Insta360 Pro also allows 360 live stream and that is an additional service with some growing demand. My wife is a marketing manager working for some educational gov organization and she has said they will be interested in 360 live streaming for their events. |
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WGAN Fan Club Member Queensland, Australia |
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Quote:Originally Posted by TakedaSan Forgot to mention that I know about it. But if you try to get details of a photographer from that page there is no way at all. I am not even sure why Google has done it that way. It looks like it has not been well thought through from the beginning. It does not make any sense to see a photo of a photographer and their names without any chance to reach them. If there was some way to contact a photographer I would be more than happy to use it instead of using a logo at nadir. |
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