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Dan Smigrod: - Well, today is Thursday, February 2, 2023, and according to the Matterport Support website, this camera, the Insta360 ONE RS 1" as you referred to it, is still in Beta with Matterport. It's still possible that Matterport is 'tweaking it' ...
Incidentally, other 360 cameras that are in Beta are the Ricoh THETA X, the Insta360 X3, and as we're discussing, the Insta360 ONE RS 1". I think the jury still may be out on that because Matterport hasn't officially said, "we support the camera."
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Dan Smigrod: It's just available in Beta. You're probably the first one who's actually been talking about the Insta360 ONE RS 1" in We Get Around Network Forum as it relates to Matterport. Aside from the color, was there any other consideration? The Insta360 ONE RS 1" is $800 compared to the Ricoh THETA Z for $1,050 so you could save $250. Your thoughts?
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Tom Sparks: - Well, I did a very similar scan. Instead of 81 scans with the Ricoh THETA Z1, I did 65 with the Insta360 ONE RS 1", which included that front and back yard "peak" and no closets. I'll rewind and say with the Ricoh THETA Z1, I did do the closets.
All that with the Ricoh THETA Z1, it was 35 minutes and with the Insta360 ONE RS 1" it was also about 35 minutes, so timing is very similar.
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Dan Smigrod: - Super-fast. It would save you $250, but you're still concerned about the quality. You were very happy with the Ricoh THETA Z1?
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Tom Sparks: - Yeah. Now, if they can dial in those window pulls, it doesn't matter maybe to some people, but to me, just coming from a photography world and offering real estate photos, it's a big deal to have clear windows and be able to see out and not see just a white mess.
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Dan Smigrod: - I'll just point out, we're not really going to discuss the other options here, but there is the Ricoh THETA X at $800, which is in Beta with Matterport. There is the Insta360 X3, $450. That's in Beta as well.
There is the Ricoh THETA SC2, which is $330. There are some other cameras to consider. There are other cameras that work with Matterport, but they're no longer sold, so Matterport supports them, but they're no longer available to buy them new, so we won't even talk about them.
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Dan Smigrod: We went through the five cameras. You didn't shoot the space with a Leica BLK360 1st Generation. When and why do you use a Leica BLK360 1st Generation camera?
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Tom Sparks: - Well, prior to the Matterport Pro3 Camera coming out, I would use it anytime I needed to do an outside space.
What I would do is combine Pro2 and the BLK360 on a Matterport tour. I've also used it to scan at I guess, a higher Level Of Detail to get more accurate E57 Files when I'm doing industrial spaces or commercial spaces, but for residential it was strictly, "do I need to scan something outside?" That was the determining factor. For me, the downside to [the BLK360]; it's just incredibly slow.
I didn't have any other complaints as far as the speed of it.
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Dan Smigrod: - Quality of the images of the BLK360 1st Generation versus a Matterport Pro3 Camera?
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Tom Sparks: - Not having a current frame of reference, I don't remember anything drastically different, but I did do a school one time and it was outside and inside spaces of the school and the quality was on par with the Matterport Pro2 because I did the Pro2 and the Leica BLK360 at the same space.
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Dan Smigrod: - Interesting. Because I would have said the BLK360 image quality is just not as good as a Matterport Pro2 Camera or Matterport Pro3 Camera. I think probably for today's discussion, the price just blows everyone away anyway.
You are talking about $20,000, $22,000 for Leica BLK360. It solved the problem for you for doing outdoors, it solved the problem for E57 Files, Matterport MatterPak when you needed data files for clients, but if you're just starting out, the BLK360 is probably not an option.
It may only be an option for somebody who has a Matterport Pro2 Camera, Matterport Pro3 Camera and is making significant strides in the AEC space, As-Builts, outdoor elevations and is probably looking at that because they have a specific job and the Pro3 won't handle it. Good enough?
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Tom Sparks: - Yeah. Accuracy for those E57 Files is huge. I've been working on a document to compare all the cameras and the accuracy and the BLK360 is a lot more accurate than the Matterport Pro3 Camera and the Matterport Pro2 Camera.
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Dan Smigrod: - That's an interesting thing. If you're doing residential real estate, the accuracy of all these cameras is just fine, but if you start to move into commercial, then you probably need a Matterport Pro2 Camera, or Matterport Pro3 Camera, or Leica BLK360 G1 depending on what you're doing.
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Tom Sparks: - Quick stats just to tease a possible future WGAN-TV show. Leica BLK360 is accurate, according to them, six millimeters at 10 meters.
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Dan Smigrod: - Yes.
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Tom Sparks: - Matterport Pro3 Camera is 20 millimeters at 10 meters.
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Dan Smigrod: - Yes.
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Tom Sparks: - The Matterport Pro2 Camera is 44-58 millimeters at 4.5 meters.
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Dan Smigrod: - Yes. I would say if you're concerned about that level of accuracy, then a 360 camera is not going to cut it.
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Dan Smigrod: The good news is you can today order floor plans either from Matterport or any third-party company to generate floor plans from 360 cameras or any of the Matterport cameras, but if you really do want to have an E57 File, a Matterport MatterPak, whatever those are, you can't shoot those with a 360 camera. Matterport won't provide that to you. Tom, let me go ahead and ask you through some filters, – some 'lenses' for perspective –
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Dan Smigrod: "I'm thinking about getting started with Matterport. I'm trying to decide which camera."
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Dan Smigrod: How about in terms of quality? You told me about these five cameras. Could you really tell the difference between them, six cameras?
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Tom Sparks: - Virtual Tour quality?
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Dan Smigrod: - Yeah.
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Tom Sparks: - Well, Matterport Pro2 and Pro3 Cameras are very similar, like I said.
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Tom Sparks: The Ricoh THETA Z1 is close to the Matterport Pro2 and Pro3 Cameras. The Insta360 ONE RS 1" was the blown-out windows and the coloring was slightly off. That might be attributed to it being in Beta mode. Matterport AXIS smartphone rotator is just no bueno [no good].
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Dan Smigrod: - No bueno.
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Tom Sparks: - No bueno.
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Dan Smigrod: - No bueno. What I would suggest to our viewers or listeners is go to: www.WGAN.INFO/SparksMediaGroup Go look at all five tours that Tom looked at. I looked at all five of them, Tom, and truly, if you'd done a "blind taste test" with me and said tell me which we shot with which camera, I don't know that I could have done that. I could have told you that some looked a little better than others.
I could certainly tell, "Oh! This one had 360 Views outside versus 360 Scans," but generally, inside the house, walking around, I thought,"Wow! They're all pretty similar.".
That probably goes back to your point about, "Well, if you're just starting out, a $1,050 Ricoh THETA Z1 camera may cut it and let you shoot the space in 35 minutes versus maybe taking two or three times that."
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Tom Sparks: - It's super-easy to nitpick things when you have that luxury, but there's a lot of factors. There's a budget, there's time on site.
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Dan Smigrod: - Let's talk about it. We talked about quality. We really have touched on speed. You mentioned the two 360 cameras that you shot in a third or half the time of a Matterport Pro2 or Pro3 Camera.
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Dan Smigrod: If you need outdoor scan data.
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Tom Sparks: Well, you can use the Ricoh THETA Z1 and the Insta360 ONE RS 1" outside too. I just chose not to do the whole yard.
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Dan Smigrod: Okay. But it's not the right tool to capture scanned data, that's a whole another discussion.
But truly, if you're shooting outdoors or you have outdoor elevations or great distance or accuracy matters or need an E57 File or Matterport MatterPak, you really have just really probably two options: Matterport Pro3 Camera and Leica BLK360, first-generation.
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Tom Sparks: Sorry.
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Dan Smigrod: To say parenthetically just yesterday. Wednesday, February 1, 2023, Matterport announced that they will support the Leica BLK360 second-generation, but they haven't announced – when – so if – when – matters, go with the first-generation, if you need the BLK360 second-generation and can wait, it's coming.
Matterport Support says they're going to support that camera. Tom, I'm so sorry. You were about to say something and I cut you off.
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Tom Sparks: No, it's okay. I just lost my train of thought about what I was about to say, but that's fine.
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Dan Smigrod: I was talking about outdoors, height, distance, accuracy, if you need a E57 File, a MatterPak.
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Tom Sparks: Yeah, it was going to say I'm buying three Pro3s for the price of the first-generation BLK360, if it came down to it.
I like the Matterport Pro3 Camera. But it's interesting about the second-generation version that they're going to support that because there was some talk that because they have the Matterport Pro3 Camera, they may just say, "forget you, we don't need [Leica BLK360 2G] anymore."
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Dan Smigrod: Yeah. I think what they've probably have overcome is to say, "well, the Matterport Pro3 Camera quality of the imagery is much better than the Leica BLK360 1G/2G, but if somebody needs the level of accuracy that the Leica BLK360 can provide, then Matterport will support it because the level of accuracy of a Leica BLK360 first second-generation way exceeds Matterport Pro3 Camera.
They're competing with each other, but they're not. They're competing in the sense that if you needed to go out and buy another camera and you had $22,000, you would go buy three or three-and-a-half Matterport Pro3 Cameras for
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Dan Smigrod: $18,000 versus buying one Leica BLK360 scanner first-generation for about $20,000 or $22,000.
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Dan Smigrod: A lot of our discussion has been around service providers that eliminated trying to build a business on that Matterport AXIS motorized smartphone rotator.
Matterport AXIS is training wheels to get started with Matterport, put your foot in the water, sure, spend the $80 but if you're a Bed and Breakfast (B&B) with one location, is there a thought there of which camera to go get or I certainly heard your bias was, "No! Hire a professional Matterport Service Provider to shoot your space? Don't take any time to try and figure out all this Matterport technology."
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Tom Sparks: No, if Matterport can resolve that window pull/color and issue of the Insta360 ONE RS 1", I'd go with the Insta360 ONE RS 1" for $800.
But if it was a "right-now" thing, I'd say get the Ricoh THETA Z1 because it's very similar to the Matterport Pro2 and Pro3 Cameras, as far as virtual tour image quality. With that, B&B can take 360 photos if they want. They can update their virtual tour year round to show the different seasons, that kind of thing.
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Dan Smigrod: Know that there's some other cameras out there that we haven't talked about still in Beta with Matterport, the Ricoh THETA X at $800, the Insta360 X3 at $450, the Insta360 ONE RS 1" and the Ricoh THETA SC2, which is out and is supported by Matterport for $330.
It is possible to get a 360 camera versus rotating your smartphone and perhaps get done with a little bit faster and not feel like you're putting your smartphone at risk, rotating around unless you're buying ...
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Tom Sparks: I had another option we didn't discuss, the Matterport "use your arm" version 1.0 where we can take our phone and just do this.
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Dan Smigrod: Yeah. I'm just going to say, "it's not an option!" I would be so depressed if anyone watching WGAN-TV Live at 5 said, "no, I'm just going to use the Matterport Capture app on my iPhone or my Android device and rotate it around."
I think that's a "party trick" for doing one 360. But as soon as you have a space of any size and you're trying to connect the dots, the Matterport AXIS motorized smartphone rotator would be worth $80.
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Tom Sparks: Yeah, and I actually did that in an office space one time while I was waiting for somebody. I took my phone and tried the Matterport Capture app (free-hand) and it is painstaking to do it with your hand.
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Dan Smigrod: Yeah, "party trick!" If you're a business and you've got 10,000 SQ FT, 5,000 SQ FT or 10,000 SQ FT, you just have your one space.
You heard us say, "hey, hire a professional Matterport Service Provider" and you say, "well, I'm geeky, I'm a photographer, it's like a hobby thing. I'll get it, I'll try it. Which camera am I buying? Am I buying a 360 camera, am I buying a Matterport camera?"
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Tom Sparks: There's an argument to use the Matterport Pro2 Camera.
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Tom Sparks: I can do roughly 3,000 SQ FT in an hour or so. That's a general average of open spaces or cluttered spaces.
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Tom Sparks: You've got $3,500, $3,300 for the Matterport Pro2 Camera versus $1,050 for the Ricoh THETA Z1. You just have one store, I would probably say, "get a 360."
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Dan Smigrod: (360 camera.) Keep in mind, I think buying a Matterport Pro2 Camera, Matterport Pro3 Camera is a little bit like buying a goldfish: as soon as you buy a goldfish, you need a tank and you need gravel, and you need plants, and you need a light, and you need an aerator, and you need food.
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Tom Sparks: My fish have died over the years. ;-)
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Dan Smigrod: Yeah, right. Even though we've told you the cost of what the camera is, we really haven't told you about everything else that you need, including a Matterport Cloud account so take that into consideration.
If you're really serious about the Matterport Pro3 Camera, WGAN does have a "cheat sheet" or cost worksheet that lists everything that you probably need to buy or want to buy. It's available free to We Get Around Network Forum members. It's free to join the We Get Around Network Forum: www.WGANForum.com
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Tom Sparks: Sorry, not to divert you off of that too much, but I have a video coming soon where I talk about equipment or accessory equipment such as tripods and monopods and that thing and there's a factor there too, because with the 360 camera you can get away with a lesser tripod or lesser monopod.
With something like the Matterport Pro2 or Pro3 Cameras or the BLK360, you would want something a little more robust so that it's not moving around too much. There's consideration there too.
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Dan Smigrod: Subscribe to Tom's YouTube channel: @SparksMediaGroup It's an awesome channel! Tom does lots of "how to" videos.
Buy the gear that he recommends using his affiliate links; support his effort in terms of all the documentation that he's doing. Again, you can see all of Tom's "how to" videos in the We Get Around Network Forum:
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Dan Smigrod: www.WGAN.INFO/SparksMediaGroup – which also includes those Matterport tour examples and Tom also writes about, well, I don't want to digress today.
I do want to go to one of the things that people might do if you're just starting out and say, "well, I'm going to get the Matterport Cloud Starter Plan at $10 a month, I don't need the Matterport Pro Plan at $69 a month." I would point – out maybe you have some other pieces here – on that Matterport Starter Plan, you can't use a Matterport Pro2 Camera or Matterport Pro3 Camera or Leica BLK360 scanner, so if you're getting a Matterport Starter Cloud Plan, you are limited to a 360 camera.
At some point, if you get a Matterport Pro Cloud account for $69 a month, you'll be able to move your tours that you shot that are in your Matterport Starter Account and migrate them to the other plan. But just keep in mind, because I get this question a lot to say, "well, I'm going to go buy a used Matterport Pro2 Camera and I'll get the Matterport Starter Plan for $10 a month because that's all I need.
I only need a couple of tours for my ... "Sorry, the Matterport Pro2 Camera doesn't work with a Matterport Starter Plan so you're at $69 a month. Just parenthetically, there are a lot of used Matterport Pro2 Cameras on the market today because there are a lot of Matterport Service Providers that are upgrading to the Matterport Pro3 Camera.
Two thoughts: 1) Go to eBay you can see how much used Matterport Pro2 Cameras are selling for today used, or 2) we have a private group in the We Get Around Network Forum for people buying and selling used Matterport Cameras and related gear.
You could probably get a great deal today on a used Matterport Pro2 Camera because there are so many Matterport Service Providers upgrading but that said, you won't be able to use a Matterport Pro2 or Pro3 Camera with the Matterport Cloud Plan that's $10 a month.
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Tom Sparks: Sorry, just to add to that now that you've touched on it, but you cannot order BIM files or Xactimate files on a Matterport Starter Plan; only on the Pro and Business plans. Matterport schematic floor plans are less for the Pro and Business plans.
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Dan Smigrod: Floor plans ordered via Matterport are a little bit less on the Matterport Pro Plan versus the Starter Plan. But again, just as Tom has pointed out, if you need Matterport MatterPaks or Matterport E57 Files, you can't do that on a Matterport Starter Plan; can't order BIM models.
You can order floor plans (or a Starter Plan). This is a little bit different from a year ago. You couldn't order floor plans that were shot with 360 cameras. Now you can, so all the ways that you can capture the Matterport tour, you can get floor plans for Matterport (though there are third-party service providers that have great alternatives for floor plans for Matterport.)
Tom, we've covered a lot of ground talking about Matterport Pro3 and Pro2 Cameras, Matterport AXIS smartphone rotator, Ricoh THETA Z1, Insta360 ONE RS 1" and Leica BLK360 scanner.
Did you have other thoughts about; if you were just starting out, words of wisdom or maybe things you would have done differently?
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Tom Sparks: When I started out I got the Matterport Pro2 Camera, and I did that because that's what I saw Matterport was selling and I definitely wasn't going to buy the Leica BLK360 even though they supported it. I didn't know that when I started they were supporting other cameras, so I got the Pro2.
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Tom Sparks: My mentality is, offer what the bar is. You could offer something less, but if you have the ability to offer the top tier product, do that. I've never offered to my clients anything less than tours created with the Matterport Pro2 Camera.
Now that I've had a chance to test everything, I might consider grabbing up a few Ricoh THETA Z1s and giving them to my photographers and saying, "now we can cover more area or maybe offer this service for a little lesser price because of the fact that you can scan incredibly quick with those two 360 cameras."
Because they're relatively inexpensive, I can get almost four Insta360 ONE RS 1" for the price of one Pro2 where I can get three Ricoh THETA Z1 cameras.
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Dan Smigrod: It almost seems counter-intuitive that a Ricoh THETA Z1 – $1,050 – would be the right choice for a real estate photographer starting out because you would think, "Oh, the Matterport Pro2 Camera, the Matterport Pro3 Camera must be the right solution.
They're more expensive cameras." I challenge you to go look at the tours that Tom has shot and compare side-by-side each of the cameras, and I would really challenge you to say, "which tour was shot by a Ricoh THETA Z1 versus Matterport Pro2 Camera versus a Matterport Pro3 Camera.
There's a difference, but there's a whole nother conversation about "good enough" ... If you can shoot a tour in half the time or a third of the time that it takes, and oh, by the way, as you scale your business as a service provider and you need a lot more cameras, we're not talking about $1,050, talking $1,050 times "x" versus $3,400 or $6,000 times "x"... You have some additional thoughts on that, yeah.
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Tom Sparks: Well, yeah. To your point when you said you were looking at all of them and you couldn't really tell the difference, it's a, I guess a game for me when I'm looking at 3D tours online – particularly on Zillow. I look and I see who doesn't trim the properties correctly and the "splatter" outside the house and they are rookie, that kinda thing.
But then I also go to the bathrooms and see what camera they use by looking in mirror reflections. Without [viewing the camera reflection in the bathroom mirror], I'm like, "I have no idea. To your point you said, "they all look very similar" I think.
But when I get in the mirror and I see a Pro2 Lite, I'm like, "huh, it doesn't have the regular Pro2." Or if I see a 360 camera I'm like, "huh." But having lived and breathed this now with this particular house, getting through that 2,000 SQ FT house in 35 minutes was huge.
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Tom Sparks: If I'm just getting started with this, I'm going to grab a Ricoh THETA Z1 and go to town with it because I can knock out more houses per day.
If I have that business, then I can with the Matterport Pro2 Camera where I might be somewhere on site for hours. That house I scanned with the Matterport Pro2 Camera was almost 40, 45 minutes. But I know a lot of photographers, even some of my own photographers would have taken hour-and-a-half, two hours, probably doing the same house with the Matterport Pro2 Camera.
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Dan Smigrod: I'm glad you mentioned Zillow. I know you shoot the Zillow 3D Home virtual tours, and I think it's a good point because my impression is you can only shoot, from a practical standpoint, Zillow 3D Home with a Ricoh THETA camera.
That may be a factor when you decide, "well, do I get the Ricoh THETA Z1, or the Insta360 ONE RS 1", or these other cameras that may cost less?" Just personally I would say, "well, I want to keep my options open because maybe I'm planning to shoot Zillow 3D Home virtual tours.
I really need to buy a Ricoh THETA camera, or I don't know whether I'm going to do that, but I just wanted to keep my options open and the Ricoh THETA line of cameras is probably the most supported camera of platforms that do integrations."
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Tom Sparks: We should get Ricoh to sponsor us because we're giving them a lot of kudos. The Ricoh Theta Z1 checks that box – being compatible with Zillow at least for the floor plans and virtual tour.
You can do a virtual tour with your iPhone I believe, but when you want to get a floor plan with Zillow, you have to use the Ricoh THETA SC2, the Ricoh THETA V, the Ricoh THETA Z1, and the Ricoh THETA X. So I would get the Ricoh THETA Z1.
Then also, if you're going to dive into Planitar and get an iGUIDE PLANIX camera kit, you can buy the iGUIDE PLANIX Core which is just the base unit and attach a Ricoh THETA Z1 right on top of it.
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Dan Smigrod: That would be another example where the iGUIDE PLANIX camera kit is built around a Ricoh THETA Z1 camera.
Again, if you decide you're going to do Matterport and then for whatever reason you move away from Matterport and you're looking at other platforms and you go, "oh, I could use my Ricoh THETA Z1 with iGUIDE PLANIX Core camera kit. I only already own half of what it takes to have that iGUIDE PLANIX kit."
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Dan Smigrod: By the way, if you're interested in iGUIDE PLANIX camera kit to create iGUIDES – tell us about the video you shot on that one.
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Tom Sparks: I don't know that I was there so much. I think I did a video, but I can't find it.
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Dan Smigrod: You showed "how to" shoot with iGUIDE PLANIX camera.
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Tom Sparks: At that house?
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Dan Smigrod: I don't know if it was at that house, but I think you've done that video.
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Tom Sparks: I've done the video on how to use them, yeah.
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Dan Smigrod: You've done so many "how to" videos out there. If you and I go to www.WGAN.INFO/SparksMediaGroup – or we go to your YouTube channel – @SparksMediaGroup – we will likely find an iGUIDE PLANIX "how to" shoot video.
Maybe what I'm thinking, Tom, is that you did a video how to [remove/install the Ricoh THETA Z1 from the iGUIDE PLANIX camera kit].
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Tom Sparks: No. I did an iGUIDE on the same house, and I've done "how to" videos, a walk-through with the iGUIDE.
I assumed that I did a walk through video with the iGUIDE at the same house. I can't find the files because I've been at this house every day and I have a ton of [video]. If I don't have those video files I'm going to go back though and redo it.
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Dan Smigrod: Awesome!
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Tom Sparks: Just to get the video.
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Dan Smigrod: I really do – On behalf of the We Get Around Network Forum community, thank you for doing these side-by-side Matterport tours shot with five different cameras and recording in real-time the shooting experience.
Those videos are invaluable for anyone that is thinking about using any of the five cameras that we've just discussed to say, 'what is it like to shoot a house, a 2,053 SQ FT house, 4 bedroom/3 bath, using any one of these five cameras and see in real-time – from your point of view – what that experience was like. I think it's super-geeky, but it's really a super-gift for anyone that is actually trying to make a decision about buying a camera to get started with Matterport.
Then when you watch his videos and if you go to his YouTube channel, he lists all his affiliate links to buy all the cameras and stuff. So support Tom for doing what he's doing because it's like this gift that he's given to you to help you decide which camera is right for you (and then you have some affiliate links.)
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Tom Sparks: I've done videos on walkthroughs of other houses, but it was really intriguing to me to be able to have that apples-to-apples of, "here's everything in the same house. You decide now that you have all the data, what you want to use."
Because when you're looking for a new product, if you're like me, I get on YouTube and I'm looking at drones. Then I get 70 different videos on drone reviews and by the time I'm done watching them all I just don't know what to get.
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Dan Smigrod: Or you can just watch an hour of WGAN-TV Live at 5 with Tom Sparks and find out which camera is right for you. Tom, thanks for being a guest on WGAN-TV today.
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Tom Sparks: Thank you, sir. I appreciate it as always.
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Dan Smigrod: We've been visiting with Tom Sparks, Founder of ScanYourSpace, a division of Sparks Media Group. You can find ScanYourSpace: www.ScanYourSpace.com You can find sparks Media Group: www.SparksMediaGroup.com If you want to email Tom: info@ScanYourSpace.com You'll find him in the We Get Around Network Forum: @ScanYourSpace
We did mention that his YouTube channel: @SparksMediaGroup and that you can see all his Matterport virtual tours and all of his videos ...
And all his "how to" videos that he's been posting to the We Get Around Network Forum at the short link: www.WGAN.INFO/SparksMediaGroup
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Dan Smigrod: For Tom Sparks in Suisun City, California. I'm Dan Smigrod, Founder of the We Get Around Network Forum and you've been watching WGAN-TV Live at 5. |
