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Background info:

I'm based in the United Kingdom and I have a real estate client interested in Matterport tours. Up until now I've only done stills photography. I recently bought the Pro2. So far, I've scanned a few rooms within my own property.

Mounting the tripod on my stairs and then having to leave the scene to perform a scan was utterly terrifying. The MP recommended Manfrotto MT190X3 tripod is flimsier than I expected and it doesn't have a spirit level.

The question

If you could give one piece of advice to someone starting out in real estate 3D tours using MP, what would it be?

I'd be interested in getting any tips in terms of shooting real estate, using equipment, kit recommendations, or even marketing ideas.

Thanks in advance.
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The Manfrotto MT 190 is very capable. We have been scanning with Matterport for over 4 and a half years. We have done thousands of scans and to this point, knock on wood, have never had an issue with stability. Steps and floors are not created equally, as we just scanned a 30,000 ft property downtown Memphis, TN and it was over 80 years old. The floors were not level.

The ARCA head has a level, but we also carry a small, inexpensive level that we will put on top of the Matterport to check the level. It is quick, easy and very inexpensive.

When you scan steps always try to do the highest level with one leg, then you only have to change the possible height of that one leg, instead of 2 or 3.

Having grown up in Europe, I know many of the properties are old and not level. The hand held level, about 6 inches long, that can be carried in your pocket between scans, is and will be an essential tool in your kit.

Good luck and happy scanning.
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For multi level homes or spaces I prefer to start on the lowest level & work my way up as I find it easier to move the camera and tripod up the stairs rather then down the stairs.

Have 2 legs fully extended on the lower stair and lower the third leg on the upper stair to level the camera
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I would recommend shooting the still photos first before the virtual tour. You can catch all the details of the home and hid items that will shot up more on 360 tour.
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ALWAYS put 1 short leg up and 2 full length legs down. We actually had a Pro 2 topple over a bannister and fall to the floor. The tech had the one leg on the downside.
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Thanks all. I get the idea regarding using a tripod on stairs, i.e. two fully extended legs on the lower steps for stability. That's how I did it during a trial run in my home, but it still made me nervous. I'll be sure to have kit insurance before doing this on real jobs.

@Bennett that was useful to know, thanks for the tip.
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Originally Posted by sandhun
Thanks all. I get the idea regarding using a tripod on stairs, i.e. two fully extended legs on the lower steps for stability. That's how I did it during a trial run in my home, but it still made me nervous.

No need to be nervous if you make sure all legs are locked.
There is no way your camera will fall down when it stays that way.
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I fear that I have entered this industry too late.

Almost all the real estate agents around here are using Giraffe 360. They pay a monthly/annual fee to Giraffe who provide the agent with cameras so they can shoot their own tours.

I may have to look beyond real estate to find other ways of making money from my Pro2 camera. I'm paying a monthly subscription fee but currently am not earning anything.

Any suggestions in terms of other marketplaces where opportunity may still exist?
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“Don’t try to chase the camera, just play hide and seek!”

It is tempting to walk around behind the camera as it is scanning to “save time”, but in my experience, there are often times you will get caught in an unexpected reflection or cast a creepy shadow and you usually don’t realize it until long after you have left the location.

In anticipation of that, I generally approach every scan with a hiding plan in place. (Think of it the same way you would if you were trying to find cover in a gunfight)

I look for a nearby room or wall that I can use to hide while the scan is happening, I turn the volume up on the iPad and make sure sounds are on in the app preferences. When the scan is complete, I hear the first chime, then (for maximum efficiency) I make it my goal to be in position for the following scan and hidden again before the second chime (indicating that the content is transferred, aligned and the app is ready for another scan location)

Using this method will ensure you are scanning as fast as possible (measurably) and keeps you from accidentally having an unexpected cameo in the finished tour. 🤣👍🏽

Likewise, it is important, when possible, to ensure that no one else (or pets) are on site, for the same reason)

Sure, there are times that it is ok to chase the camera, but if you do, keep in mind that mirrors are not the only reflective surfaces. 😉👍🏽

Hope that helps!

God Bless,

P.S. if you do have to stay with the camera near a mirror, keep in mind that if you see the lenses they see you, a 45° angle to the rear of the camera is the best place to stand and minimize reflections, but that won’t help with shadows. To a avoid shadows (i.e. outdoor 360° shots at golden hour) walk far enough behind the camera that your shadow stops before reaching the tripod legs 😉 when the sun is at your back.
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Good tips Chris ~ I also will pre-mark mirrors after shooting these tours for a few years you can anticipate approximately where the mirror(s) will be in an upcoming room
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