"Wish List" for Matterport Workshop10473

Originally Posted by @igortskii
Hello,

I currently use an outdated 360 photo camera and Pano2VR to make standalone offline tours that can be opened by anyone who downloads the files. It opens it up in a web-browser even if they are offline.

We are considering getting a Lidar point cloud based camera to do the same thing. But after talking to Matterport and doing some research myself, I see that there is no way to have an offline based 3d tour without having a special software like Revit, Autodesk, etc to open it.

Or am I wrong? Is there any solutions available out there for what I described?

We use the tours for capturing ship interiors. Many times the ships themselves use the tours so that the captain or engineer doesnt have to run through the entire vessel to see a particular detail. But many times they dont have internet while out at sea, so thats why we need a stand alone version that can be opened offline.

Also, our main reason for considering lidar is because many times the dynamic lighting when capturing photos is just off. We will be in low-light rooms, but there is a bright window and the camera autoadjusts to that brightness and leaves the room almost impossible to see inside of.

Are there any new 360 cameras that have superior dynamic light capabilities?

Thanks everyone for reading and offering direction.

Originally Posted by @MeshImages
Unfortunately Matterport does not see the necessity to offer an offline solution. My clients from sales departments are also often asking for offline solutions and currently we are helping ourselves with showing the tours in the outdated Matterport iOs Showcase App.

I think iGuide could be a good solution, but I don't know if they are offering a button in their player showcase to actually download the tours. But if they do, then iGuide could be a great solution with high degree of automation, that is also suitable for large ships. IGuide gives you an excellent overview and orientation in their 360 showcase.

Another possible solution could be 3DVista as @Home3D has already stated. 3DVista can play both, 360 tours and 3D tours and allows the highest degree of customization. Every tour can be designed to play offline, too. But be careful. With many 360s plus 3D data, tours can easily reach sizes bigger than 1 GB. But the flexibility of 3DVista is fantastic. You can create whatever you need. And you can work with 360 and 3D data. But you should try it beforehand, because the software has significantly grown in availability of features and settings and is now really complicated. In 3DVista you can work with whatever capturing solution that you want- 360 and 3D. Also 3D fron mobile Apps like Scaniverse, Polycam and RealityCapture. Furthermore you can work with native 3D CAD files that you convert to .glb files to make them play. The advantage of the 3D over 360 solution lies in the Tagging and in the Overview. In 3D you place a tag and see it from everywhere, but in 360 you can see it only in the single panorama. And 3D gives you a great overview by showing the inside 3D model of the boat, but for the details you will want to jump into a 360 panorama to actually see the details and to actually read and see what is there. Not sure if 3D Gaussian Splattings or photogrammetry actually lets you actually read small text or thin typography in the 3D or also zoom into details, I don't think so.

To find the best solution, camera and scanner I need to know more details about the size of the boat and level of detail that you are looking for.

Originally Posted by @DanSmigrod
The WGAN Forum Question of the Day for Wednesday, 25 September 2024:

Question of the Day: Auto-creates tour platform with free offline viewer?

Please see detailed question below from a WGAN Member that gave me permission to post the question.

Best,

Dan

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Hi Dan

You might have came across this question many times but for me I still can’t find a solution.

For years I’ve been doing Virtual tours primarily for the the use of Construction documentation where my clients will need this service on a new or renovated house or building to document the roughing and anything inside the walls before it’s being closed up with Sheetrock, so they can lookup anything later in the years to come if any problem arise or for whatever reason they need to see aging what’s going on inside the walls.

I started out by using Matterport, but quickly realized the problem I’m facing with paying for hosting, since this type of virtual tour service is something a customer relies on for the next 20/30 years I can’t commit my self to pay my Matterport subscription for them for such a long period of time.

1) I might not be in business anymore
2) Matterport might be changing their terms and conditions that don’t work for me
3) and generally I can’t sell such a service when neither me as the service provider or the client is fully owns for the service they paid for.

My solution was to switch over to “Cupix Works” because they do have the option to download and a offline viewer plus many more good features they had.

For example I was able to upload any 360 photos captured with a 360 camera and they did the mapping process and so with that I was able to download my Matterport tours through a third party and had them all uploaded to Cupix, plus many more good features they have.

Still every one has their Pros and Cons and I couldn’t keep up with cost for Cupix since it’s not a SAAS and they bill you on a yearly subscription based on a contract.

My question to you now is:

You have way more knowledge then me in this industry.

Do you know or can you come up with a solution for me of a software or maybe a combination of more then one soft that I can create my work flow to achieve the above mentioned scenario for my clients without needing to be tied to monthly subscription and hosting fees where I’m not owning my data?

What I’m mainly looking for and obviously ready to pay is a platform that:

1) automatically does the mapping of the individual 360 photos (some call photogrammetry) which is laying down the hotspots in correct position

2) it can be self hosted and/or download for viewing without me needing to pay subscription fees

I would really appreciate if you can give me your input and trying to help me solve this.

Thank you.

Best regards,

[redacted]

P.S. I think it’s better that you post.

Originally Posted by @DigitalTwin
I suppose this is a request to MP, but why can't each model have a scheduled time factor associated with it?

How do you guys handle this? If I ask a client to pay a monthly or annual fee to cover hosting costs, I would like to simply be able to plug that end date in, perhaps get a warning a week out, and then have that project auto-archive on the date set.

Currently, I just enter those dates on my work calendar, but it gets a bit messy if I forget to. Then I have to go back to the agreements, calculate what was decided on, blah blah blah.

I am genuinely curious about how you guys deal with limited time-based hosting fees. A lot of my projects (doing film locations, for instance) are only needed for a few months.

Thanks!
Todd

Originally Posted by @Wingman
I could disable floor selection and turned it off. I still contacted Matterport about it and asked them stop applying their auto-detect floors when users do not ask for it. I also asked to turn it off in the capture app by default as it's already ruined one of my customers models when they added it to the capture app.
Got something like, we will pass your feedback.

Originally Posted by Wingman
Another one that probably everyone of us want to be added to workshop

Matterport really needs to add a functionality to recognise equirectangular photos and show them as 360 photos when they are uploaded to Mattertags?
It is kind of not cool at all to be a VR technology provider while displaying uploaded 360 photos as normal photos.